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Old 23 Sep 2004, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Talk about annoying........!!!!

Hi guys,

Kev and myself wanted to take the wheels off the scoob to give them a good clean up, only to discover the rear nearside locking wheel nut wouldn't come off, so I took the scoob to a local garage and they couldn't undo it, nor could the next garage.
Went to garage that fitted the tyres and they cant undo it with anything.......
We now have to wait for the 'Thread Doctor'. and hope he can sort something out.
If we have no luck with him......Aaarghhhhhhhhh......!!!!!!

Does anybody have any ideas...????
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 08:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's not a situation i've come across :shock:

hope someone on here can help you Tricia
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 09:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I have heard of some people drilling the nut - squirting in some grease and then undoing it ??

Like Newie its not a situation I#ve come across Hope you get it sorted though
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 09:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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nasty.... Im guessing the Thread doctor will do just that Nelson? - Drill the locking nut off.... Tricia, if the people who put the locking nut on the car (tyre place) cross threaded it or something shouldnt they be responsible for the costs of getting it back off?

Just a thought :wink:
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 09:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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thats a good thought Gar :!:
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 04:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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THIS HAPPENED TO ME :cry:

The tyre shop did eventually get it off only by using some special socket with teeth that they hammered on..... Needed new lock nuts after

It was not cross threaded, it was the rear wheel and had not been off before, First set of rear tyres..... Locking nut had corrodid on :shock: (Original scooby supplied lock nuts)
Car was about 2 years old and done 18000 miles
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 05:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanx Pete, but the garage that put the tyres on tried that, and it still wouldn't shift,
They tried a 1,000 torque wrench and........ nothing, the locking nut is pretty naffed up now.
Thread doc on hols till Wednesday, even then we dont know when he'll be able to fit us in. :x
Lets hope we dont get a flat......

and yes, Kev told the garage they are paying.....

Thanx for the help...
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Old 24 Sep 2004, 05:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thats the way Kev
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Old 25 Sep 2004, 07:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Living a double life, i.e. being in love with Scoobs and nuts about classic cars, especially Jaguar and Landrover/Range-Rover.... :roll: This is a problem I have come accross many times.... The worst was on a friends 1967 Ford Mustang. What normally happens is the threads weld electrolliticaly together :shock: , this situation can be avoided to a certain degree by the use of a thin coat of copper grease or Moly grease on the threads, but can not be eradicated in MHO. When cleaning car loosen lock nut a few turns on a regular basis helps :? .

The problem can be solved usually by.... either removal of the suspension and drive shaft. Then remove the tyre, use heat to expand the lock nut and stud, then the use of the special tool that grips the lock nut outer and a long bar wrench and scaffold tube extension, the wheel will have to be held firm of course, this usually does the trick... but not always! like on the 67 Mustang.... so the solution was to burn it off with gas!! ..... you will need to buy a new hub though....

Other solutions used.... Large bench drills, angle grinders,impact wrench, special nut splitter.

All of these are common practice in the world of classic car ownership... :shock:

Re punctures carry Tyre Weld as an emergency back up for the momment .

Hope this helps..... the specialist guy will have tools, gas and acid releasing agents... so he should be able to sort it out...

Hope this helps :?


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Living a double life, i.e. being in love with Scoobs and nuts about classic cars, especially Jaguar and Landrover/Range-Rover.... :roll: This is a problem I have come accross many times.... The worst was on a friends 1967 Ford Mustang. What normally happens is the threads weld electrolliticaly together :shock: , this situation can be avoided to a certain degree by the use of a thin coat of copper grease or Moly grease on the threads, but can not be eradicated in MHO. When cleaning car loosen lock nut a few turns on a regular basis helps :? .

The problem can be solved usually by.... either removal of the suspension and drive shaft. Then remove the tyre, use heat to expand the lock nut and stud, then the use of the special tool that grips the lock nut outer and a long bar wrench and scaffold tube extension, the wheel will have to be held firm of course, this usually does the trick... but not always! like on the 67 Mustang.... so the solution was to burn it off with gas!! ..... you will need to buy a new hub though....

Other solutions used.... Large bench drills, angle grinders,impact wrench, special nut splitter.

All of these are common practice in the world of classic car ownership... :shock:

Re punctures carry Tyre Weld as an emergency back up for the momment .

Hope this helps..... the specialist guy will have tools, gas and acid releasing agents... so he should be able to sort it out...

Hope this helps :?


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:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

If they were not woried before I bet Tricia & Kev are now :shock: :shock: :shock: :wink:
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Old 25 Sep 2004, 03:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanx Nobby 248,

Hopefully we will get something sorted. The sooner the better.
Never thought of Tyre Weld, I think we're going out now to get some....
Thanx again...


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you're right, we are now.....
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Old 26 Sep 2004, 01:11 AM   #12 (permalink)
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get a torque wrench or whatever u need, big plier would do.

Heat up the locking nut with a blowtorch untill its red,

weld the wrench or pliers to the nut


pull hard, twisting every pull or so.

and if that doesnt work, ull need to remove everythin and get a new wheel
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Old 28 Sep 2004, 10:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Aaaaarrrgghhhhhhhhh,
Still no luck at the mo, still waiting forthe so called 'Thread Doctor' to come back from hols, we're not even going to attemp anything now..... Shall wait for him, then the garage can foot the bill....

Kev doesn't want to drive the car at the mo, that suits me just fine.... I get to drive it everyday.... YIPPEE
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Old 03 Oct 2004, 12:59 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yippeee....

The car will be done on Thursday, and not before time.

They reckon it could take all day, :cry: but, who cares, as long as it get done.

Think I might talk about nothing at all now, haven't got many Scoobs, need to build them up a bit....... Okay...... I've said enough now...
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Old 08 Oct 2004, 07:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
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YIPPEEEEEEEE...........

The wheel has now been done...

If we have a punchure now, at least we can change the wheel....

Think I've just put a jinx on that now...
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