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Old 08 Jan 2009, 06:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2007 Subaru Impreza 1.5 engine, auto transmission. Especially, in winter when I turn the ignition key, the engine starts immediately and dies in 3 seconds. The engine rpm sticks around 200-300 rpm (very close to zero) for about 3 seconds. When I try the second time, it takes 8-10 seconds for engine to start. If the weather is really cold, I have no luck. I think that the engine takes a lot of gas but the engine cannot go to 2000rpm. For this reason, it chokes itself pretty good. I do not know what to do. A Subaru mechanic in my country suggested me to buy some engine heaters since my car behaves very nicely at warm weather. However, I do not have a garage and I cannot send some electric cables from third floor to across the street. Any solution is greatly appreciated.
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Old 09 Jan 2009, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Is they any check light up in it could be a faulty sensor did you get it dianostic tested by subaru then you could rule that problem out
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Old 10 Jan 2009, 06:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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No. There are no check lights on after the engine starts working. I am planning to sue the Subaru dealer in Turkey. I think my 2007 Subaru Impreza is a lemon. Just this morning, I could not start 2007 Subaru Impreza. The temperature was “-19 Celsius = -2.2 Fahrenheit”. Since I have been sick and tired with this 2007 Subaru Impreza, I did not get up last night at 01:00 am and start the engine. (If I run the engine every 7-8 hours, the engine starts with difficulty).The Subaru dealer is saying that if there were any problems, the check engine light would be on. I do not care about that lovely check light. What I know is that I am using the same gas as others in my city. All the cars in my city are working nicely but my 2007 Subaru Impreza is not. I have been having this torture for two winters and the subaru dealer cannot fix it.
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Hi Mehmet
Hate that shit from some dealers most are great but get the odd one that you get the feeling they dont care about your car could have buying the car from them and its like we took your money from you for your new car but we dont want to hear the problems heard a few stories with some people here having a bad time from their dealer example girlfriend driving a yaris a problem occured I said send it back to dealer to sort it as it was under warranty and woop de doo same f**king problem in car unreal only some of them dealers........ if it is under warranty try get your facts right and go to a solicitor if they dont listen to ya then they will lick your ass scare them Your really having good luck with that subaru dealer they murder is it under warranty ya???? The alternator might not be charging right could check the output with a multimeter check the battery also try for loose or faulty electrical connections on the ignition circuit sure it only somthing small

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Old 10 Jan 2009, 03:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi stiimpreza1984,
It is under warranty. The dealer is in another city and there is no Subaru service in my town. I have to drive about 600 miles to get there. They already tried to fix it a couple times. They even installed a quick start program (what ever it is). Nothing helps. I checked the battery while cranking the engine. It changes between 10,4-11,5 Volt. The battery is new and good.
This morning it did not start. Tried 3 times. I was afraid of making spark plugs wet. I tried afternoon again. It took four long (about 10 seconds) cranking to get engine run. I am planning to sue the dealer. Basically, these Subaru people in Turkey say that if there were something wrong with the car, the engine check light would be on. That engine check light can go to h*ll. The other cars in my city are working but my car. Very frustrating What can I do? I have a unique Subaru. It is sure 0x0 (instead of 4x4) when it does not run.
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Hi stiimpreza1984,
I checked the battery while cranking the engine. It changes between 10,4-11,5 Volt. The battery is new and good.
Did you check the alternator check with engine running when you can get it to run it should be at 14volts thats a strong and good output then 13.5v for normal output but if its under 13volts the alternator is weak, only check battery when engine stopped it should be 12.5volts or higher the better then a ok battery is 12v classed as fair then under 10volts be a poor battery hope it helps

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Basically, these Subaru people in Turkey say that if there were something wrong with the car, the engine check light would be on.
Thats not always the case could have a problem and it would not throw up an engine check light
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Hi stiimpreza1984,
I checked the battery while cranking the engine. It changes between 10,4-11,5 Volt. The battery is new and good.
Did you check the alternator check with engine running when you can get it to run it should be at 14volts thats a strong and good output then 13.5v for normal output but if its under 13volts the alternator is weak, only check battery when engine stopped it should be 12.5volts or higher the better then a ok battery is 12v classed as fair then under 10volts be a poor battery hope it helps

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Basically, these Subaru people in Turkey say that if there were something wrong with the car, the engine check light would be on.
Thats not always the case could have a problem and it would not throw up an engine check light it would wreck my head to
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Old 10 Jan 2009, 10:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have just checked the alternator with engine running. When the engine was at 2000rpm, it was 15Volts. I think that it would be normal at lower rpm. The battery was 12.9volts before I have started the engine. Am I supposed step on gas pedal just a little bit in cold weather? Sometimes, it seems that there is no gas in the engine. However, I am afraid of choking the engine since this kind of cars are supposed to start without pushing the gas pedal.
It did the same thing. The engine started and died itself at first. At my next try, it worked okay. This Subaru Impreza does not like cold weather. I hope it works tomorrow morning.
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That rules out the battery and alternator so try for loose or faulty electrical connections on the ignition circuit quite possibly be a blocked fuel injector or the main fuel relay faulty where do you fill your petrol is it from a good petrol station
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Old 11 Jan 2009, 07:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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This Subaru expert in Turkey is saying the same thing. "If there was something wrong with anything, CEL would show it." He says that the Subaru service did full scan and could not find anything. Yet, I cannot start my 2007 Subaru Impreza in cold weather.
The gas is said to be bad in this part of Turkey. I even used injection cleaner which was an imprort and expensive one. It does not help either. Other cars in this city are using the same gas. Moreover, there is one 2008 Subaru Impreza and that car is just working fine. The Subaru man said that 2008 Subaru Impreza has the same engine as my car. I cannot drive my 2007 Subaru Impreza very well but it is driving me crazy very well.

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I even used injection cleaner which was an imprort and expensive one. It does not help either.The gas is said to be bad in this part of Turkey.
Injector cleaner was a good shot but it does not always clear a dirty or blocked injector try taking them out and cleaning them
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If you are not getting anywhere with your subaru dealer, and clearly there is some kind of problem with the car as it is having problems starting when it's cold i suggest you go back to them and tell them to get it fixed or you take legal action!!

If they say they have done all they can you should get online and source contact details for Subaru Turkey HQ and get them on the case. There is definately a fault with the car and they need to fix it. The vehicle is under warranty and if this situation goes on much longer you may find yourself out of warranty, no fix yet and up the creek without a paddle!!

If Subaru Turkey cannot sort this out then you have no option but to sue your dealer. If you can find an independant Subaru specialist somewhere in Turkey get them to look over the car and give you a report. You might have to pay for it but at least someone with no link to Subaru would diagnose the fault and then you can take that back to Subaru and get them to sort it out and pay for your report by the specialist. If you end up taking them to court at least you can use the report you purchased from the specialist as court evidence that there is a problem with the car.

I'm happy to say that on the whole Subaru dealers in the UK are very good and i can vouch for my local subaru dealer as they are mostly genuine petrolheads and will go out of their way to help you out.

BTW....Your car is under warranty, do not take it apart yourself otherwise you will invalidate the warranty and give your dealer a good excuse to tell you to bugger off!!
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i suggest you go back to them and tell them to get it fixed or you take legal action!!
I agree to get them to sort it out put you foot down with them
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I have already contacted to Subaru Turkey HQ. Their technical and warranty service personnel told me that if something was wrong with the car, the Check Engine Light would be on. That is not on. When the spark plugs were changed, that light came on and it went of when I run the engine third time. They installed a quick start program. It seems that there is nothing they can do except to change spark plugs and put a new battery which I am sure will not solve the problem. For this reason, this person suggests me to install an engine block heater to cover the problem in the engine. Other cars in my city do not have these kinds of heaters and they are working just fine. Moreover, I live an apartment and it is impossible for me to use that heater.
In Turkey, the courts hire some specialists who prepare independent reports. If somehow dealer wins the case, I have to pay all the court expenses including the lawyer of the dealer.
I bought this car with many financial difficulties since I believed that this was a good car for winter and there was a subaru service in the city where I live. I was wrong at both cases. This 2007 Subaru impreza is a lemon and they shot down the subaru service in my city since it did not have all the necessary tools to fix Subaru cars. I am disappointed and disgusted with this situation.

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A Subaru mechanic has come to my city to fix my car. It was nice. However, they cannot do anything helpful. He certainly said that coolant sensor is not faulty but he can change it if I feel better. He changed the spark plugs and installed another program. The engine started at the third try with new spark plugs (the temperature -19 Celsius = -2.2 Fahrenheit) . This morning, I tried everything I know and the engine started at the fourth try. When it started, the engine could not go to 2000rpm. It stayed at the 200rpm about 6 seconds before slowly going to 2000rpm. He had some computer and gas mixture measurements. He said that they would send them to Japan. I feel like I am a guinea pig. These subaru people in Turkey have sure some strange reasoning. They say that if the car is starting well in the warm weather, there is no major problem with the car. I say that, it is not starting in cold weather, there is a big problem with the car.
I am too tired to deal with the Subaru impreza and Subaru mechanics in Turkey. I had better go to court and sue them. I do not like Subaru anymore. Everybody is happy with Ford dealer in my city. If I can get my money back, I will buy a Ford Focus. I think that these boxer engines do like cold weather although I drove Subaru Outback in the USA and it did not have any problems.
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