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Old 07 May 2007, 11:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Im going off scoobys....fast!!!!

2 of me mates sti`s have blown up in the last wk-it dont exactly inspire confidence and one of em`s an 03sti which generally i thought were a strong set up the 03 were running tsl`s 333 with a chargecooler the 06 sti had been remapped(bob rawle a while bk i believe) de-cat exhaust an a few minor bits.You just dont here much about either of these models having many problems so to hear of 2 ppl i knows blowing up suprised me a little-think phils 03 will be going to tractive solutions and rons 06 will be done by either subaru-if done under warranty/if not its going to RCMS for some big power/bills lol, both very good places to take your car though.

just think it even more unlikely i buy another scooby after this though for how i`d want it to run dont think i`d be able to cope with the bills.
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Old 07 May 2007, 11:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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whats caused them to go bang though dave?
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Old 07 May 2007, 12:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If i knew that i could make imprezas a reliable car an i`d be worth a fortune to subaru

dunno mate heard about phils last night off of lee with the red wagon-phils sorta his best mate an havent spoke to ron (06 sti)about his directly either though had trouble with turbo on that before and were replaced a while bk noticed it smoking and excessive oil outta dump valve first time round so will let folks know when i know more meself though i wouldnt class either car as abused, drove fast yer but not abused theres a difference.
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Old 07 May 2007, 01:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 08 May 2007, 03:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sorry to hear of this Dave - this was one of the main reasons for me chopping in my scoob. I had to many mates who had Scoobs that had popped. like you they were all what I considered well looked after cars.....kinda knocked my confidence in the car and hence the decision was taken to switch sides.

That having been said all the Scoobs to which I refer were Classics. I didn't think the New Ages had the same problems? Were these particular cars used on the track at all?
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Old 08 May 2007, 05:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You are only seeing the tip of the iceberg.... I see so many friends having new engines fitted I sometime think what's the point lets move to Jag or BMW...

You only have to look at the price of the subaru extended warrentee at one time this was £300 per year...Then the P1 came out and within a 12 month warentee's shot to £1500 a year... But since the newage the warentee has slowly dropped last time I looked it was under £800 a year.
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Old 08 May 2007, 05:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi mate,honestly i really thought sti`s would cope better than these 2 have,ron with the 06 one has always been on his dads insurance whilst he`s had a bugeye wrx for a few yr from new then a black 03sti from new(lease cars-dads got his own business)think his dad had a classic before the bugeye aswell he likes his scoobys and then ron bought a 2006sti himself so he knows the score with impreza`s not like he`s just bought one and thrashed it to within an inch of its life,an phils 03sti is the same chargecooler oil changed regularly etc 333 conversion at TSL if anything these are both spoilt cars as to an extent as money aint a problem if its being spent on them.

just a suprise, i do like blobeyes but think its a case now that if i ever get another 4wd car it will be an evo 6 an get an uprated clutch straight away yer fair enough servicings expensive............................however impreza engine rebuilds are more expensive an having spent £12kish on a motor it really aint what you need is it????

(before anyone asks no i aint after selling mine yet just saying)

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I have now had 5 scoobs and yes I run them very hard..The only one to go pop was the import...I quite often hit 140 mph and the import was at its max at this type of speed. All my UK cars have not missed a beat. I do find that most the engine builds going through my local subaru dealer are classic's. Yes the newage does go pop but I don't see many. You would think it would be round the other way with the newage still under warentee and being done free...
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Old 08 May 2007, 06:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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lets be honest tho both cars are far from running standard horse power your always gonna run a risk of doing some damage to the engine even more so on a car that is prone for poor pistons

i thought that the sti8/9's we're ment to be pretty strong tho some running 450bhp running standard internals seems i may have got it wrong

i know both the cars dave is talkin about and as he said they are both well looked after cars and only get abit of stick from time to time
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lets be honest tho both cars are far from running standard horse power your always gonna run a risk of doing some damage to the engine even more so on a car that is prone for poor pistons

i thought that the sti8/9's we're ment to be pretty strong tho some running 450bhp running standard internals seems i may have got it wrong

i know both the cars dave is talkin about and as he said they are both well looked after cars and only get abit of stick from time to time

tbh lee i wouldn't expect any scoob to hold 450bhp for long on standard internals.
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lets be honest tho both cars are far from running standard horse power your always gonna run a risk of doing some damage to the engine even more so on a car that is prone for poor pistons

i thought that the sti8/9's we're ment to be pretty strong tho some running 450bhp running standard internals seems i may have got it wrong

i know both the cars dave is talkin about and as he said they are both well looked after cars and only get abit of stick from time to time
still though neithers running mad bhp in fact lee theres another gone bang aint there your mates wr1, though that was mad bhp but was that your mates fault.........who knows.
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still though neithers running mad bhp in fact lee theres another gone bang aint there your mates wr1, though that was mad bhp but was that your mates fault.........who knows.

very easy to blow up an engine once you start modding, hence y i leave it to those in the know lol
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I have now had 5 scoobs and yes I run them very hard..The only one to go pop was the import...I quite often hit 140 mph and the import was at its max at this type of speed. All my UK cars have not missed a beat. I do find that most the engine builds going through my local subaru dealer are classic's. Yes the newage does go pop but I don't see many. You would think it would be round the other way with the newage still under warentee and being done free...
Gotta admit bob its always in the bk of my mind when i give mine some stick....well its sort of a toss up between engine and box lol-never had this fear with any other car.............well ok maybe the series 2 escort RST i had yrs ago not so bothered about em going its just the cost -with a classic its getting to the stage where it`d be cheaper to buy another car theyre almost that cheap to buy.
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very easy to blow up an engine once you start modding, hence y i leave it to those in the know lol
Lees mates wr1 conversion were done by tractive solutions think it hadnt been run in enough though by owner before it went pop.

Tidgy all these cars are mapped by proper places dont think theres anyone on here who wouldnt take to a reputable place however only things i wouldnt touch meself would be box and internals,perfectly happy to fit the ad on mods be it performance styling or brakes meself only reason mine aint been mapped yet is because i want a frontmount on first-that said some ppl would say after a full de-cat you should have it done immediately however mines now done about 26,000 miles since then without any problem without a remap,in fact in 30,000miles the only thing thats pissed me right off were 5th gear syncro/hub etc going on a car that`d only done 33,000miles and 5th aint exactly a gear that gets much hammer,only other thing ive had were a maf sensor,the rests just been wear an tear-brakes/clutch/tyres/servicing so so far count meself lucky-ish.
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Lees mates wr1 conversion were done by tractive solutions think it hadnt been run in enough though by owner before it went pop.

Tidgy all these cars are mapped by proper places dont think theres anyone on here who wouldnt take to a reputable place however only things i wouldnt touch meself would be box and internals,perfectly happy to fit the ad on mods be it performance styling or brakes meself only reason mine aint been mapped yet is because i want a frontmount on first-that said some ppl would say after a full de-cat you should have it done immediately however mines now done about 26,000 miles since then without any problem without a remap,in fact in 30,000miles the only thing thats pissed me right off were 5th gear syncro/hub etc going on a car that`d only done 33,000miles and 5th aint exactly a gear that gets much hammer,only other thing ive had were a maf sensor,the rests just been wear an tear-brakes/clutch/tyres/servicing so so far count meself lucky-ish.

i think the fundamental problem is scoobs as standard have crap engines.

was chatting to a few mechanics over the last weekend, the engine in them is shockingly bad, wether it be due to tolerance being to big, or just shoddy parts, there not very good at all.

evo's on the other hand are much better out of the box, better engines, brake etc. (just using this as an example)

however, with the right engine in and the correct setup impreza's are one of the best performance cars out there (and pap all over evo's )

the basic issue is the impreza cuts corners with its spec to reduce price and it pays for it
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