Is Subaru becoming to fluffy round the edge's?

[Tidgy]

Since the introduction of the new age imprea aka bug eye on do people think that subarus are becoming a tamer beast?

Weight has increased, performance has dropped (going on standard cars here), gadgets and electronic gizmo's have been added left right and centre but build quality has gone up.

Do people thnk this takes away from the raw rally car performance of the scoob?

[rikimaru]

Dunno about performance, but styling wise the newer imprezas are certainly more salary man friendly. They've improved massively over the bug eye (sorry to any owners), but they are still not as charismatic.

Mine has been alongside many a new age here in japan, and they look great but seem to lack the attitude and the stance of mine (mines not standard, also has wider wheels). Mine is lower to the ground and has a more potent look in the front. They are certainly more comfortable but to me that is just cossetting the driver from aspects of driving that enhance the whole experience.

[BIG GRINDER!]

mmmm I think you right.
I just got the New Impreza "glossy" spec in the post today and the limited edition 300 only spec d Sti 29K does 0-62 in 5.4

Im sure my 2000 turbo spec is 5.5 sec as standard

Kev

[skylight]

Originally Posted by Tidgy

Since the introduction of the new age imprea aka bug eye on do people think that subarus are becoming a tamer beast?

Weight has increased, performance has dropped (going on standard cars here), gadgets and electronic gizmo's have been added left right and centre but build quality has gone up.

Do people thnk this takes away from the raw rally car performance of the scoob?

agree, dont shot me down in flames! my evo is very similar in nature to my classic scoob - even though the same year as my last WRX 2004 - The noise, vibration, and basicness of it all apeals!... My 1999 model for me was raw and alot of fun - the evo reminds me of this... However, Subaru HAVE to get into the market and sell like BMW, AUDI etc... The STI Being compared against the BMW 330i M Sport says it all! AND the wrx being compared against the Alfa 147 GTR 3.2 V6 24V , and AUDI 3.2 V6 Quattro also says they want that sort of client on board... Rightfully so Subaru are a business who need to stay alive.

If you want that rough and ready lightweight option then the Spec C is the way to go.... Lets not forget that any Subaru is an Import really!

My views

Gareth - PS Still love scoobs

[bob]

Originally Posted by Tidgy

Since the introduction of the new age imprea aka bug eye on do people think that subarus are becoming a tamer beast?

Weight has increased, performance has dropped (going on standard cars here), gadgets and electronic gizmo's have been added left right and centre but build quality has gone up.

Do people thnk this takes away from the raw rally car performance of the scoob?

This is more like a classic V newage thread...

Weight has increased newage are a larger car so we must expect this.

Performance has dropped... The most powerfull and fastest UK scoob happens to be newage even though it is large and heavy..
Build quality and electrical gizmo's have been added...But is this not good? Or should we be driving a stripped out shell?

I am one of the lads that said I do not want to go to newage, I will stick to the classics. But since owning a newage I would not want to go back to the classic. I still love driving the classic's and if I wanted a track toy I would have the classic. But for living with the car every day I would want the newage.

[Tidgy]

Originally Posted by bob

This is more like a classic V newage thread...

Weight has increased newage are a larger car so we must expect this.

Performance has dropped... The most powerfull and fastest UK scoob happens to be newage even though it is large and heavy..
Build quality and electrical gizmo's have been added...But is this not good? Or should we be driving a stripped out shell?

I am one of the lads that said I do not want to go to newage, I will stick to the classics. But since owning a newage I would not want to go back to the classic. I still love driving the classic's and if I wanted a track toy I would have the classic. But for living with the car every day I would want the newage.

maybe fastest uk but not jap, thats the s202/203 isn't it?

but isn't the whole point that the subaru is always been a drivers car, and not reliant on electrics to get you out of trouble?

also the weight is a big issue when cornering.

[bob]

Originally Posted by Tidgy

maybe fastest uk but not jap, thats the s202/203 isn't it?

I said the most powerfull and fastest UK was newage...Looks like you state the most powerful and fastest import is also newage...

[Tidgy]

Originally Posted by bob

I said the most powerfull and fastest UK was newage...Looks like you state the most powerful and fastest import is also newage...

yeah yeah, realise that lol.

but what i mean is comparing normal models aka sti version 5/6 to sti 7/8/9/10

[JohnnyFive]

Mine is a 2000 Classic - but only because I cannot bring myself to spend more than £6K on a car!

I'm obviously not on the ball here because I had long assumed that I nevertheless had the most 'attractive' one (to me). However I started to notice post-bugeye Impreza's that I became jealous of (partly due to newness). From what I can see of Bob's car, that's the one!

I'd have one of those anyday! Swapsies anyone?

[bob]

Originally Posted by Tidgy

yeah yeah, realise that lol.

but what i mean is comparing normal models aka sti version 5/6 to sti 7/8/9/10

What is normal... A car you can walk in the dealers and purchase or one that is imported specialy. be it classic or newage.
As I have stated many times the Type R I had was raw power great for track and having fun but I only did track days a few times a year. The rest of the year it was my shopping trolly, with the ocational blast across the moors.. I went to newage after a few years (after I had got use to there looks,) wanted a little more gizmos and comfort but still required a fast motor for fun days.
But which is faster...I would not like to say (talking std Type R here.) Up to about 130-140 I would say nothing in it. As long as the type R never blow up.. As at 150 they are hitting 8000 rpm and they do not last long at that speed I know..

[Tidgy]

Originally Posted by bob

What is normal... A car you can walk in the dealers and purchase or one that is imported specialy. be it classic or newage.
As I have stated many times the Type R I had was raw power great for track and having fun but I only did track days a few times a year. The rest of the year it was my shopping trolly, with the ocational blast across the moors.. I went to newage after a few years (after I had got use to there looks,) wanted a little more gizmos and comfort but still required a fast motor for fun days.
But which is faster...I would not like to say (talking std Type R here.) Up to about 130-140 I would say nothing in it. As long as the type R never blow up.. As at 150 they are hitting 8000 rpm and they do not last long at that speed I know..

yeah by norm i mean as built sti 5/6 have to be an import, against a new age standard sti, wether it be JDM or uk