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Old 20 Jul 2006, 01:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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import or not to import that is the question

from my previous reasrch into skylines (which is still my dream car ie the gt34 tt manual 6 speed )

i have found that cars from japan are more reliable and in a much higher condition than those in the uk, plus you can take away the speed restrictor from the jap car lol.

anyways as im now looking at an sti from a previous topic i responded to tonight , is it wise to go for an import or not? whats your views and experinces
oh and im a mmeber of bonsai cars
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 08:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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if you want a classic shape you'll have to go for an import.

imprt spec is hgher but you pay a bit more for insurance (mainly due to the extra power they kick out) insuring an import isn't difficult anymore by the way.
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 08:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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import all the way baby:P

why pay silly prices too get close to the output of a jap import???

me i started with the baseline of 260bhp rather than 220bhp lolz
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 08:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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who is the best import people that are fair with price and with quality?

and whats the difference in performance etc
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 09:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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diff in performance is about 1 second 0-60 and 10mph top end, that approx by the way
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 09:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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wow 10mph.

THAT IS A DIFFERENDE gawd and theres me thiking jap cars were quick when in fact that are slower than uk cars

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Old 20 Jul 2006, 09:24 AM   #7 (permalink)
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wow 10mph.

THAT IS A DIFFERENDE gawd and theres me thiking jap cars were quick when in fact that are slower than uk cars

hehe he
other way round mate, imports are quicker than uk
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 10:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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diff in performance is about 1 second 0-60 and 10mph top end, that approx by the way
and there was me thinking the classic jap stuff had shorter gear ratio's giving the UK longer legs and a higher top speed..

Newage jap stuff also have lower ratio's in 5th and 6th giving the UK car longer legs and posible higher top speed.

Most of this is if the car has been tuned. Not many of the STD cars will hit the rev limit in top unless tuned.
Classic's Type R will but only hits 150 then out of rev's, Ra does but only 125ish then out of rev's. STI and WRX does have simular speeds to the UK cars not much in it.
Tuned Newage Jap cars can hit 150 at 7000 if tuned and has the right wheels and tyres.
Tuned UK cars will hit 167 at 7000 if tuned and has the right wheels and tyres.
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and there was me thinking the classic jap stuff had shorter gear ratio's giving the UK longer legs and a higher top speed..

Newage jap stuff also have lower ratio's in 5th and 6th giving the UK car longer legs and posible higher top speed.

Most of this is if the car has been tuned. Not many of the STD cars will hit the rev limit in top unless tuned.
Classic's Type R will but only hits 150 then out of rev's, Ra does but only 125ish then out of rev's. STI and WRX does have simular speeds to the UK cars not much in it.
Tuned Newage Jap cars can hit 150 at 7000 if tuned and has the right wheels and tyres.
Tuned UK cars will hit 167 at 7000 if tuned and has the right wheels and tyres.

doh! hadn't realised that the standard classic sti's had shorter legs, new the ra's and r's had short ratio, i didn't realise that norm sti's had shorter ratio aas well.

cheers bob, clears that one up
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 10:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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doh! hadn't realised that the standard classic sti's had shorter legs, new the ra's and r's had short ratio, i didn't realise that norm sti's had shorter ratio aas well.

cheers bob, clears that one up
Think you will find the sti and wrx has the same gear ratio's but the final drive is 4.44 for jap and 3.9 for uk All newage are 3.9's but the jap boxes have lower ratio's in 5th and 6th.
Here is the gearbox ratio's of the scoobs...
http://www.bob.szhosting.net/Doc's/ratios.xls

You can alter the final drive ratio to compair speeds...Check the newage all gear ratios are the same with the exception of 5th and 6th.
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 10:53 AM   #11 (permalink)
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mmmmm

standard wrx uk is 220bhp standard jap wrx is 260bhp
standard sti uk is 240-260bhp jap sti is 280-300bhp

mmm so how u get the time of 1sec and 10mph topend speeds tidgy???
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standard wrx uk is 220bhp standard jap wrx is 260bhp
standard sti uk is 240-260bhp jap sti is 280-300bhp

mmm so how u get the time of 1sec and 10mph topend speeds tidgy???
sure sti's do 155 and uk's do 147, well thats what i thought,

ddn't think it was wrong cvos i know the uks struggle to get much more than that cos of less power.

and the 1 seconds, classic sti does 0-60 in about 4.5 ish, uk does it in 5.5
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 11:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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mmm so 40bhp gets u 1second

so a standard 260 does 13sec 1/4 and if u want too get under 11s u will need 340bhp+?

by the way, i aint picking m8y im actually in a good mood, off too JAE 2morrow
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Old 20 Jul 2006, 11:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
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other way round mate, imports are quicker than uk
i was taljkingthe piss you said 10mph and not 100mph

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std 220 bhp uk car.
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 220
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1370
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 163.16
0 - 60 (Secs) : 6.04
0 - 100 (Secs) : 17.21
60 - 100 (Secs) : 11.17
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.82
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 92.79
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 14.42
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 95.61


Std 260 bhp jap car
Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 260
Weight without Driver (KG) : 1370
Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 192.83
0 - 60 (Secs) : 5.17
0 - 100 (Secs) : 14.06
60 - 100 (Secs) : 8.89
Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.91
Terminal Speed (MPH) : 99.46
Drag Strip Quarter Mile (Secs) : 13.51
Drag Strip Terminal Speed (MPH) : 102.60
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