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Old 19 Nov 2011, 11:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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new shocks needed...suggestions?

Hi folks,
Could I pick your knowledgeable brains please?

So, I need new shocks. Have sti prodrive shocks at the moment that are rock (seriously, no budge whatsoever!) hard. Local indie says maybe go back to standard subaru suspension to make the car more compliant, but I don't want to make it too soft, nor do I want to increase the ride height much cause it looks the bees knees in it's current setup.

Basically I know f-all about the brands and types, but tein seem to pop up a lot and are easy to find. Local supplier has a fairly full range (TEIN Suspension - EARS Motorsport Ireland Ltd - Suppliers of).

Have looked in a bunch of places at various options (for example Subaru Impreza Shock Absorbers :, Subaru Impreza Coilovers :, Scoobyparts Ltd Suspension) and have come to the conclusion that while coilovers might be higher specced that I need (just daily driver and quick road use), they don't seem to much more expensive that new shocks and springs.

So, would people recommend tein products, and if so, where in the range should I be aiming (super street / flex / etc)? I know JD suggested AST coilovers (suspension knock workaround...anyone tried this?), but they seem a fair bit more expensive and a bit harder to source...are they worth the effort to source and pay a bit more for?

If it makes a difference, I have the whiteline anti-lift kit, bushes and anti-roll bar.

Thanks for your help folks, I've never dabbled in shocks before, so have no idea.

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Old 20 Nov 2011, 09:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: new shocks needed...suggestions?

Avoid the Tein if you think the Prodrive are solid, Tein are designed for japanese roads.

The BC racing coilovers are getting good reviews and are reasonably priced.

It does depend on your plans.
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Old 20 Nov 2011, 10:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Avoid the Tein if you think the Prodrive are solid, Tein are designed for japanese roads.

The BC racing coilovers are getting good reviews and are reasonably priced.

It does depend on your plans.
Hi JD,
Thanks for the response.
My plans don't include any tracking or anything like that. Tein are very stiff then...interesting. Any disadvantage in the BC's being oil filled (I think they are, correct me if I'm wrong)? I know in theory the gas filled are a bit more stable, but I'm not sure if that would come across in normal driving or does that only come into the equation on gravel etc.
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Old 20 Nov 2011, 11:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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not 100% up on coilovers but i would get on to pro parts...they do k sport coilovers


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Would suggest speaking to one of the tuning companies who would know more than I.
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Old 26 Nov 2011, 05:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi again folks,
Been researching away. Those bc racing coilovers seem to be getting good reviews everywhere (I know they're not buddy club) and are particularly good value when you note they come with top mounts etc in the price.

One thing I've noticed on my rounds is statements like this:
*New Age STi models 2001-2004 (5/100 PCD models only)*

What does this mean and how do I know if I have one of those models our not?

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One thing I've noticed on my rounds is statements like this:
*New Age STi models 2001-2004 (5/100 PCD models only)*

What does this mean and how do I know if I have one of those models our not?

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01-04 STi have 5/100 PCD.

05-07 STi have 5/114.3 PCD.

01-07 WRX have 5/100 PCD.

*Its the wheel bolt pattern*
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01-04 STi have 5/100 PCD.

05-07 STi have 5/114.3 PCD.

01-07 WRX have 5/100 PCD.

*Its the wheel bolt pattern*


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Old 30 Nov 2011, 11:05 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Yet more questions!
A number of options open to me:

Basic option is pillowball front mounts with camber adjust, with OEM style rear mounts.

60 to upgrade the front mounts to add caster adjust.

60 to upgrade the rears to camber adjustable rose jointed top mounts.

Is there any point in getting caster (as well as camber) adjustable for an additional 60? I don't track the car. Is it worth upgrading the rears to be camber adjustable to get the non-OEM top mounts?

I would appreciate your thoughts.
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The best setup I ever had on my car was oem struts with prodrive springs, with fast road geometry setup.

I change to BC coilovers, BR series as the oem struts needed replacing. They are good, ride is not too bad, slightly softer (depending on setting) than the oem+prodrive setup was - but the handling just isn't _quite_ as good. Ride height does look good though.

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Hi All,

I'm in a pickle as well, gone from Tein Coilies (Stiff as f**k !!!) to recently bought used 'Standard type RA shocks and springs'.

A bit pissed off to be honest, I love the ride now, nice and comfy, handles pretty well still BUT my wheels rub!

One other thing I have noticed, is the car sits really low at the back, now is this because I have bigger wheels (which surely makes no sense, wouldn't the car raise even more) ORRRR so I have heard, are the type RA springs 20mm lower than standard ???

Thinking of keeping the standard Subaru shocks, but need ideas for the springs, I want the car sitting normal, and I am willing to downgrade from 18" to either 17s or 16s.
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Re: new shocks needed...suggestions?

and what size tyres are yo running Luke?
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and what size tyres are yo running Luke?
225/40/18

I have been told by a few peeps on here to go 17s and go 205... Going to miss the wide tyre!
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agree,go 17 with 205/45 88W's..prodrive recomendation
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agree,go 17 with 205/45 88W's..prodrive recomendation
is that with standard suspension ?? also do you know if the RA springs sit lower ??

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