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Old 03 Jun 2004, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello all / PPP Upgrade

Firstly Hello all, Im new to this forum ops:

Could do with some hints really guys.

Been thinking about doing the PPP upgrade on my X Reg (00 I think) impreza Turbo.

After talking to subaru I passed out and vommitted at their price. :roll: So I started looking around for the bits myself.

So far courtesy of a very nice man (nelson), i have got a Prodrive exhaust BB.

Do I need to buy a decat centre section for that too ?

I have also sourced some Discs and Pads off a WRX.

Next was the ECU, someone has offered me their old ECU from a PPP conversion with the exhaust centre section for 400. Subaru then charge me 60 for fitting...but say it might not work - eh :?:

Am I safe buying a second hand ecu ?

Any pointers would be fab.

BTW - Is it true Dark Blue is the fastest colour :wink:

Big Hello to Nelson too - top bloke
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 02:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi spooky welcome to the mad house!

Cant help ypu with the mods, but can agree on 2 points
1. nelson is a top bloke (that will make him blush)
2. yes WRB is the fastest color!


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Old 03 Jun 2004, 03:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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is that 60 for fitting the ecu :?: :shock:
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 03:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi Spooky - glad you made it across mate

I will post up some more info. on this thread when I get home later on

As Poxy says - 60 to fit and ECU ?? seems a little steep !

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Old 03 Jun 2004, 03:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Welcome to the site m8 :shock: Hope you enjoy.
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 03:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Spooky - and welcome to the site
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 04:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
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OK the version of the PPP ECU will be very important for you mate - basically you can only fit a MY99/00 PPP to yours. I have it on good authority that a MY97/98 version PPP ECU won't fit

So whilst you are being offered it at that price it may be worth checking this before you go any further. If it is a MY99/MY00 then its a case of pull up the passenger carpet undo bolts holding the protective metal plate to uncover the ECU. Then unplug it - unbolt it - bolt the PPP ECU back in plug it in and off you go

As for the Exhaust - well any Decatted centre section will be ok - and I would suggest you go for a resonated centre pipe should you not like a lot of noise from your Exhaust. I can point you in the right direction if you are interested in buying this section of pipe. As you say you are buying the official Prodrive Back Box from me and all you then need is the uprated intercooler hose that is fitted as part of the PPP and then you have the full upgrade
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 05:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Right

Its a MY99 ECU.

Subaru say they gotta remap it or summit, are they lying ?

They guy selling the ECU has the DECAT centre section in with the 400 squid.

As for the hose, cant find any 2nd hand, so its 60 bob from sparco.

I dont know what type of centre section it is, ill check that now.

TY Nelson ) again (
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 09:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its a MY99 ECU.

Subaru say they gotta remap it or summit, are they lying ?

They guy selling the ECU has the DECAT centre section in with the 400 squid.

As for the hose, cant find any 2nd hand, so its 60 bob from sparco.

I dont know what type of centre section it is, ill check that now.

TY Nelson ) again (
Um ReMap a PPP ECU - Impossible mate, AFAIK they are not mappable :shock: hmmm got the feeling that you were being told porkies there. I can say this as Poxy has a MY99 spec UK Tub and has done the PPP treatment on his (to good effect too) and all he does is fit the 99PPP ECU plug it in and off you go If you are stuck about what to do with this then I will gladly go out to my car and photo the stpes that you will need to do for replacing the ECU. So the guy you are getting the ECU and decat centre for 400 ?? That does seem like a good price cos I have seen the ppp Ecu's going for as much as 300 on their own. The Sparco i/c hose also sounds like a good price and if you get it all done for say 460 then you are saving a lot on the original price for the PPP which was in the region of 1500 :shock:
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Old 03 Jun 2004, 10:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Yeah dead right

It works out like this

PPP Back Box from you #110
PPP Centre DECAT + ECU #400
EDIT---EBC Grooved disks and pads #60 - http://www.zen24039.zen.co.uk/Scooby...isc%20copy.jpg
Hose #60

So all in all about #600 for the lot, a saving of #800

I think it sounds OK to me. Does it sound OK to you Nelson ?

Then I will fit them all, I think Subaru talk poo sometimes, and tbh i trust u more than I do them already.

They guy selling the ECU says he will fit it for me if I want him to.

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Old 04 Jun 2004, 06:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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welcome to the site spooky
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So all in all about #600 for the lot, a saving of #800
Thats wicked m8...
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Old 04 Jun 2004, 07:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hehe, yeah made me smile. The disks and pads aint brandnew tho, so I spose ill just have to hope everything goes on OK :x

Just need to convince me GF now. She thinks I may as well flush money down the toilet, but hey shes a woman, so theres no way shes ever gonna Love a scooby like I do

Pfft, ordered em anway.
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Old 04 Jun 2004, 07:57 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Thats a bloody good deal mate cos you will be raising your power on your motor from 217BHP to 245ish BHP plus some decent stopping gear aswell all for 600 :shock: :shock: Go for it you WONT be disappointed....oh yea forgot to mention that the PPP ECU is in fact an STI ECU but the map has been changed for UK Fuel another thing it does is increase the mid range torque to about 255 ft/lb torque rather than the 225 ft/lb that the standard UK Turbo has . One thing I forgot to mention that you wouldn't have known is that with the PPP ECU on board you will be best off running it on minimum of SUL. You can run it on Normal Unleaded but you will lose a fair bit of performance - apparently, I can't confirm this cos mine always gets SUL or Optimax. But again the optimum performance was designed for SUL or 97 RON.

Hope this Helps

Let us know how you get on when its all fitted
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what benefits do you get from using super plus unleaded? i always use unleaded :?
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